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[Thomi Richards <thomi.richards@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hey,



On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Celso Providelo <
celso.providelo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

<massive snip>

>
> Yes, it is a cheat. Stakeholders do not care about *the code*, it's just
> our 'instrument' to provide them value. Strictly speaking we should only
> care about *the code* when it is affecting the how we deliver value, either
> reducing our velocity (which is your _valid_ point) or prevent us to solve
> problems.
>
> <massive snip>


> CI-CD (highly automated, instrumented and monitored production
> environment) is a very important aspect of the way we intend to deliver and
> maintain solutions and was entirely overlooked for one and half sprint.
>
>
It seems to me that our stakeholders really don't care about CI/CD either,
right? Surely they'd be perfectly happy if we  had to manually deploy
services using nothing but a magnet and a rusty nail, as long as they got
deployed?

*We* would care, because it'd slow us down.

Of course I think we need proper CI/CD, just as I think we need to write
good code. It just seems that scrum (or at least the way we're doing scrum)
doesn't help us do these things.

Cheers,
-- 
Thomi Richards
thomi.richards@xxxxxxxxxxxxx