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["Nick Parker" <nickp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yes, I usually create a lib folder that contains all the external
dependencies and commit that with my source.

Nick Parker
www.developernotes.com

On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Krisztian Gyuris <gyurisc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Yes, let's use gtk. How do we handle these dependencies then? Shall I check
> the binaries in the source code control?
>
> On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Brian Pedersen <brian.pedersen@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> Hehe, I was just writing something like "using what is already there to
>> get up and running fast", but you got there first :)
>>
>> I was thinking of a three phased approach, something like:
>>
>> 1 -Get something up and running
>> 2 - Optimize for ease of maintainability
>> 3 - Optimize user experience
>>
>> If it speeds up the process using gtk in the first phase, lets do so.
>>
>> Once we have something up and running, we will be in a much better
>> position to make decisions regarding which UI libraries to use on the long
>> term.
>>
>> If on the other hand it is giving us a lot of problems getting it to work
>> on windows with gtk, we should reconsider.
>>
>> In the end we would want to avoid having prerequiste installs like gtk,
>> but for now I think it is best if we take one step at the time.
>>
>> /Brian
>>
>>
>> 2008/7/4 Nick Parker <nickp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>
>> Krisztian/All,
>>>
>>> I agree that the install should be a no brainer, which is why I want to
>>> start localizing all of the external library dependencies within the project
>>> (I haven't seen what you have yet so maybe this is already done).  That
>>> said, we can build the installer, probably using WiX to package everything
>>> together so we can just require .NET 3.5 on the client machine (launch
>>> condition), everything else will be in the .msi.
>>>
>>> As David mentioned previously, there are gtk+ libs for Windows.  From a
>>> "get this thing going" perspective, I think it might be in our best interest
>>> to use as many libraries as are available to get the main application
>>> running on Windows.  From the point where it runs on Windows we know there
>>> will be refactoring even from an OS platform that we want to look into, but
>>> I would suggest we do this in stages and simply get the application running
>>> first.
>>>
>>> Nick Parker
>>> www.developernotes.com
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 2:31 AM, Krisztian Gyuris <gyurisc@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> One important area to focus on is that the install should be a no
>>>> brainer for the end user. I would not really like to use something, where I
>>>> need to hunt and install extra things onto my computer.
>>>> This should be totally seamless...
>>>>
>>>> Krisztian
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Brian Pedersen <
>>>> brian.pedersen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Krisztian
>>>>>
>>>>> Now is definately a good time for this discussion, I will try to put my
>>>>> input on this into writing this evening and hopefully we can get a good
>>>>> discussion going and find an approach which will cover our needs at least to
>>>>> begin with, while we are moving towards a compilable state.
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe platform dependency and cross platform development are broad
>>>>> covering terms, which we will need to split up into more specific areas, it
>>>>> could however be we could start out focusing on only some of those areas, in
>>>>> order to keep moving.
>>>>>
>>>>> /Brian
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2008/7/4 Krisztian Gyuris <gyurisc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to discuss what approach to take with the dependencies of
>>>>>> Do (widgets, mono specific classes).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Ignore them all
>>>>>> - Try to refactor the code into thin layer and make it pluggable
>>>>>> - Take windows only approach - meaning that we will only use what is
>>>>>> available on windows
>>>>>> - Take mono only approach - meaning that we will only use what is
>>>>>> already in the code.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be nice to hear your thoughts on this and the pros and cons
>>>>>> of each approach.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Krisztian
>>>>>>
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