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["Brian Pedersen" <brian.pedersen@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hehe, I was just writing something like "using what is already there to get
up and running fast", but you got there first :)

I was thinking of a three phased approach, something like:

1 -Get something up and running
2 - Optimize for ease of maintainability
3 - Optimize user experience

If it speeds up the process using gtk in the first phase, lets do so.

Once we have something up and running, we will be in a much better position
to make decisions regarding which UI libraries to use on the long term.

If on the other hand it is giving us a lot of problems getting it to work on
windows with gtk, we should reconsider.

In the end we would want to avoid having prerequiste installs like gtk, but
for now I think it is best if we take one step at the time.

/Brian


2008/7/4 Nick Parker <nickp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

> Krisztian/All,
>
> I agree that the install should be a no brainer, which is why I want to
> start localizing all of the external library dependencies within the project
> (I haven't seen what you have yet so maybe this is already done).  That
> said, we can build the installer, probably using WiX to package everything
> together so we can just require .NET 3.5 on the client machine (launch
> condition), everything else will be in the .msi.
>
> As David mentioned previously, there are gtk+ libs for Windows.  From a
> "get this thing going" perspective, I think it might be in our best interest
> to use as many libraries as are available to get the main application
> running on Windows.  From the point where it runs on Windows we know there
> will be refactoring even from an OS platform that we want to look into, but
> I would suggest we do this in stages and simply get the application running
> first.
>
> Nick Parker
> www.developernotes.com
>
> On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 2:31 AM, Krisztian Gyuris <gyurisc@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> One important area to focus on is that the install should be a no brainer
>> for the end user. I would not really like to use something, where I need to
>> hunt and install extra things onto my computer.
>> This should be totally seamless...
>>
>> Krisztian
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Brian Pedersen <brian.pedersen@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Krisztian
>>>
>>> Now is definately a good time for this discussion, I will try to put my
>>> input on this into writing this evening and hopefully we can get a good
>>> discussion going and find an approach which will cover our needs at least to
>>> begin with, while we are moving towards a compilable state.
>>>
>>> I believe platform dependency and cross platform development are broad
>>> covering terms, which we will need to split up into more specific areas, it
>>> could however be we could start out focusing on only some of those areas, in
>>> order to keep moving.
>>>
>>> /Brian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2008/7/4 Krisztian Gyuris <gyurisc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>
>>>>  All,
>>>>
>>>> I would like to discuss what approach to take with the dependencies of
>>>> Do (widgets, mono specific classes).
>>>>
>>>> - Ignore them all
>>>> - Try to refactor the code into thin layer and make it pluggable
>>>> - Take windows only approach - meaning that we will only use what is
>>>> available on windows
>>>> - Take mono only approach - meaning that we will only use what is
>>>> already in the code.
>>>>
>>>> It would be nice to hear your thoughts on this and the pros and cons of
>>>> each approach.
>>>>
>>>> Krisztian
>>>>
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