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Forwarded by Naoyuki Tai <ntai@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
----------------------- Original Message -----------------------
From: Lou Stein <lou.gmoogle@xxxxxxxxx>
To: TAnderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: 'Luis' <Luis_Santos@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
'Tai' <ntai@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
'Bryan Barton' <bryanjbarton@xxxxxxxxx>,
"'Walter (Gene) Vinson'" <wevinson@xxxxxxxxx>,
'Evan Davis-Drennan' <evan22@xxxxxx>,
'Pamela Cooney' <pcooney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
jorgedan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
artist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
g.ristoiu@xxxxxxxxx,
twehner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
ndulue@xxxxxxx,
'Tom Graham' <tgraham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
'Jack ODonnell' <jodonnell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:37:52 -0500
Subject: Re: Color coding -- Lessons Learned (Forms with latest changes)
----
Hi,
I finally created a triage document in which uses Hiren's BootCD. It
could be simplified -- with a Dos 7.1 Boot Disk and Astra Systems info
-- to get System information from the donated computers.
But, there are situations that Hiren's might be useful. I have an
appendix for BIOS boot sequences and general Hiren information. The
volunteers will only need the first TRIAGE page; the rest of it is just
information. I noticed I made a minor error in one of my revisions for
computer tags. I figure I will just resend all of the current forms.
Regards,
Lou
Lou Stein wrote:
> Tim,
>
> Modified labels to have them one type per sheet.
> Changed INSTALL to INSTALL OS so it will correspond to the directions on
> the form.
>
> Still drafting TRIAGE, INSTALL OS, and REPAIR documentation.
>
> Lou
> Lou Stein wrote:
>
>> Tim.
>>
>> The only problem is squeezing your changes into the space available and
>> getting it to print cleanly (computer tags only).
>> I have reduced the font size in a couple of sections to get the text to fit.
>>
>> Other projects that need to be done is go through the boxes of Video,
>> network, and sound cards and sort them by type (IDE, PCI, AGP (video
>> only)). Also, sort CD/DVD drives by IDE/SATA plus type (eg. CDROM,
>> CD/RW, DVDRom, DVD/RW). At some point, we need to test these cards and
>> make sure they work correctly. I don't know if I mentioned this to you
>> but I would like to create a tech kit with several network, video and
>> sound card and other other items that a PC guy/gal onsite could use to
>> fix any computer that might have problems. So, if your high schools
>> students happen to have time this might be something that would be a
>> great help to us.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Lou
>>
>>
>> Timothy Anderson wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Thank you Lou.
>>>
>>> I have made some small edits in your tags.
>>>
>>> Some students at Marshfield High School are helping and will now use these
>>> tags to get the equipment ready for shipping. I also sent them our attached
>>> orientation page.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> timothy
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Lou Stein [mailto:lou.gmoogle@xxxxxxxxx]
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 10:01 AM
>>> To: TAnderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Cc: 'Luis'; 'Tai'; 'Bryan Barton'; 'Walter (Gene) Vinson'; 'Evan
>>> Davis-Drennan'; 'Pamela Cooney'; jorgedan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
>>> artist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; g.ristoiu@xxxxxxxxx; twehner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
>>> ndulue@xxxxxxx; 'Tom Graham'; 'Jack ODonnell'
>>> Subject: Re: Color coding -- Lessons Learned
>>>
>>> Hi Tim,
>>>
>>> Make corrections based on your recommendations.BTW the doc is getting
>>> pretty tight.
>>> 1. The form is now set up to be 2up.
>>> 2. Changed to Install OS
>>> 3. Changed to WCE Partner
>>> 4. Volunteer needs to write in CPU Speed, and Hard Drive size
>>> 5. Added Notes to Status section...please check if you are satisfied
>>> with change?
>>> 6. YES, I believe that is true. >>Is the password and user ID different
>>> from what anyone has used previously on computers we have worked on over
>>> the past couple of years?
>>> I don't have an answer >> If so, whyare we changing as older pallets
>>> will be mixed with future pallets?
>>> Bryan/Gene please comment....
>>> 7. Bryan/Gene please comment.... >> We will probably shift to wanting to
>>> do pallets of higher end P4s... So maybe a P4 Premium box at the top
>>> after the P4? [We are not ready to start doing Premium P4 pallets yet -
>>> so should we wait?]
>>> 8. Add statement about the power switch
>>>
>>> (see updated document attached)
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Lou
>>> Timothy Anderson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Lou,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for all of the work you are doing on this.
>>>>
>>>> Does it make sense to hand out our instruction page to new people like we
>>>> did this past game day? Then we could print your form on both halves and
>>>> cut them.
>>>>
>>>> Under status sticker, would it be better to say "Install OS" instead of
>>>> "Installation"?
>>>>
>>>> At the end you list my email. I don't think I can handle any more email.
>>>> Maybe it is better to tell them to report it to the WCE Partner from whom
>>>> they received the computer who should then report it to their contact at
>>>> WCE.
>>>>
>>>> As we go forward we are going to want to know the size of the hard drive
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> the RAM - what about just writing down the size (maybe making clear what
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> do if there are below the thresholds for Ubuntu.) It will be good for us
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> know for a pallet what the range or average RAM and HDD size is. We will
>>>> probably shift to wanting to do pallets of higher end P4s... So maybe a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> P4
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Premium box at the top after the P4? [We are not ready to start doing
>>>> Premium P4 pallets yet - so should we wait?]
>>>>
>>>> Is the password and user ID different from what anyone has used previously
>>>> on computers we have worked on over the past couple of years? If so, why
>>>> are we changing as older pallets will be mixed with future pallets?
>>>>
>>>> It will be good to include a reminder at the bottom about the need for
>>>> adjusting the toggle switch to the correct power for your country.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for doing this!
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> timothy
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Lou Stein [mailto:lou.gmoogle@xxxxxxxxx]
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 12:17 PM
>>>> To: tanderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Cc: Luis; Tai; Bryan Barton; Walter (Gene) Vinson; Evan Davis-Drennan;
>>>> Pamela Cooney; jorgedan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
>>>> artist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; g.ristoiu@xxxxxxxxx;
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> twehner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> ndulue@xxxxxxx; Tom Graham; Jack ODonnell
>>>> Subject: Re: Color coding -- Lessons Learned
>>>>
>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>>
>>>> Here is the latest iteration of this document.
>>>> I am still working on the exact verbiage for the instructions but
>>>> otherwise I believe I have the correct formating.
>>>> Please let me know if there is anything that needs to be changed.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Lou
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Lou Stein <lou.gmoogle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi All.
>>>>>
>>>>> In summary,we had a very productive day and thank you to all that helped.
>>>>> Four pallets were created.
>>>>> Tasks were broken down into
>>>>> 1. Triage
>>>>> 2. Installation
>>>>> 3. Repair
>>>>> 4. Turnover and Storage.
>>>>> 5. Salvage parts
>>>>>
>>>>> The Triage team used Hiren Boot Disk 10.1 to diagnose computer quickly
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> efficiently using the System Information apps and other apps available on
>>>>> the boot disk.
>>>>> 1. See if the box can successful load grub boot loader.
>>>>> 2. Gather information and fill in a simple form
>>>>> 3. Color code the status of the box.
>>>>>
>>>>> Installation Team based on the color coding had no problem picking out
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> computers that need installation and changing the status of the box to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> "GO"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Repair Team had similar experience with the new process. Improved
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> efficiency
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> and quicker turn around on the boxes to "Install"
>>>>>
>>>>> BAD coded boxes need to be salvaged for good components and labeled and
>>>>> stored correctly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Turnover and Storage - The color coding made it far easier to pass boxes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> to
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> one group to next and storing the items for the next time it can be
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> worked
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> on.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the feedback on received on this process.
>>>>> 1. Increase the size of the form to 1/2 page.
>>>>> 2. Reduce CPU stickers to 3 levels
>>>>> P2 = P2/K6
>>>>> P3 = P3/K7
>>>>> P4 = P4/P5/K8
>>>>> 3. Give more instructions on how to triage the computer ( my suggestion
>>>>> would be to add it to the other side of the half page and fold it when
>>>>> completed)
>>>>> 4. On #3 - need to clearly state the minimum requirements for Ubuntu
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> namely
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> P3 or greater with 256MB and 4 GB hard drive. P2 level should be tested
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> marked with color code "INSTALL" plus determine if unit has a good OS
>>>>> installed or not. Leave instructions for installers that P2 boxes should
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> be
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> set aside. For P3 or greater is under the Ubuntu minimum requirements (e.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> g
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> memory, hard drive etc) then mark it REPAIR and upgrade it.
>>>>> 5. Add information on the bottom for NGO's with an email address to let
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> us
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> know if they have any problems with the box to complete the feedback loop
>>>>> 6. Change the check off list slightly to reflect what is required.
>>>>> Memory - 256, 512, < 1GB, > 1GB
>>>>> Hard Drive - over 4 GB
>>>>> 7. The Check off components sheet should list only items needed to be
>>>>> working for the completed system.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hopefully, you have observations you wish to share and I will make
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> another
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> draft of the form for next month.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Lou
>>>>> Lou Stein wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Tim,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is some my latest attempts at forms.
>>>>>> 1. Checkup Sheet -- I am able to fit into 3up
>>>>>> 2. GO...INSTALL...REPAIR...BAD...will go on address labels
>>>>>> 3. Pentium/AMD document is 2 items per Shipping Label ..to make it extra
>>>>>> big...with extra P4 labels
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lou
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Lou Stein <lou.gmoogle@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:lou.gmoogle@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey Responsibly Relentless Gang...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I used some of Tai's suggestions and creating a template like this
>>>>>> (see attached)
>>>>>> It can be done as a two up page...forgive me but my Word doc
>>>>>> skills are not that great I am sure someone could do a better job.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Create a sticker for P2,P3, etc...Shipping Label like Avery 5164
>>>>>> 2. Create color sticker for status,,,Green,Yellow,Blue or Black
>>>>>> ...probably address sticker will do.
>>>>>> 3. Section for what is there
>>>>>> 4. Section if stuff is good or bad...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any suggestions would be appreciated...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lou
>>>>>> Luis wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Great work Lou, Tai.
>>>>>>> You as well Tim, you guys are responsibly relentless.
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Luis
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________
>>>>>>> Luis Santos Personal Fitness Motivator, Power & Strength
>>>>>>> Agitator┊ ? 857 277 5458 Luis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> <mailto:Luis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ------- Original Message Follows -------
>>>>>>>> From: "Naoyuki Tai" <ntai@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:ntai@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> To: "Lou Stein" <lou.gmoogle@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:lou.gmoogle@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> Cc: <TAnderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:TAnderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Bryan Barton"
>>>>>>>> <bryanjbarton@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:bryanjbarton@xxxxxxxxx>, "Walter
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> (Gene)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Vinson" <wevinson@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:wevinson@xxxxxxxxx>, "Luis"
>>>>>>>> <Luis_Santos@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> <mailto:Luis_Santos@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>> "Evan Davis-Drennan" <evan22@xxxxxx> <mailto:evan22@xxxxxx>, "Pamela
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> Cooney"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> <PCooney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:PCooney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
>>>>>>>> <jorgedan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:jorgedan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <artist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> m> <mailto:artist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <g.ristoiu@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:g.ristoiu@xxxxxxxxx>, <twehner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:twehner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <ndulue@xxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:ndulue@xxxxxxx>, "Tom Graham"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> <TGraham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:TGraham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Jack ODonnell"
>>>>>>>> <jodonnell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:jodonnell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Color coding
>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 12:38:49 -0500
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Question -- I wonder if it is possible to create a bootable image
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> of
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> your CD
>>>>>>>>> and clone it to each computer's hard drive?
>>>>>>>>> This will take the question of networking out of the picture since
>>>>>>>>> when you
>>>>>>>>> boot up each box the clone image will run and install Ubuntu on to
>>>>>>>>> the box.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Making the disk image, and flushing the disk with the image needs
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> considered, for sure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just to be clear, the installer does not require network at all. It
>>>>>>>> installs all the packages from the CD, without interaction, unless
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> choose the "unattended network" installation.
>>>>>>>> So, only difference is that, using the disk image may be faster.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> First, the technical feasibility, and the second, how much faster
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> if
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>> any,
>>>>>>>> need to be assessed. I don't have enough time before upcoming
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> game
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> day to answre either of
>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For Tim's "paper based progress", logistics wise, it's a lot
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>> easier,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> think.
>>>>>>>> I need to digest the previous mails before speaking more. I had to
>>>>>>>> flush
>>>>>>>> out my stuff out, and I need to catch up to the messages.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Naoyuki "Tai" Tai
>>>>>>>> ntai a t smartfruit d o t com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Naoyuki "Tai" Tai
ntai a t smartfruit d o t com
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