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["Chris Belle" <cb1963@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi James?

Have tried the add-on, works very well as advertised, have done it on 
systems with and without jaws or jsonar pre-installed, and in fact, unless 
I'm doing something special where I need hsc support for a specific third 
party plug or need to fire up caketalking for a student, nvda is my go to 
tool for sonar.

I especially like the arm all tracks button, which jsonar doesn't even have, 
well, not without turning on all the input echos which is very undesirable 
for me.

The superior tool bar navigation that nvda natively offers with it's object 
navigation is great too when you want to click on things like a sighted 
dude, and also nvda is the most reliable when re-ordering fx, well, atleast 
inserting them in the correct order, making sure your de-esser goes after 
the compressor, or the tube level gets on the begining or end of the chain 
you know, stuff like that.

Unlike jsonar, the insert sends and seeing the track tabs almost always 
works but with mjsonar I think it's when the moon and stars line up right 
and it's that time of the month 'grin'.

My wife is very ill right now, and it's taken everything we have to get her 
back to nz for treatment, but when she comes back healthy, I'll have more 
resources to throw at sonar stuff, and also maybe by then we can start 
looking at x2.

Finally with x2a, we have some ui implementation which gives us some access 
back, I haven't had a chance to try it yet, but have been trying to keep up 
with what's going on with that.

At any rate, 8.5.3 is doing us fine for now.

And as long as people can atleast get windows 7 and hardware which works 
well for that, which should be ok for the next few years, maybe not for 
newest laptops, but
but for conventional daws, then we have a horse to ride.

Just as an aside, I took a look at the linux community, and it's come a long 
way we have operating systems we can install with speech an surf the web, 
and do email and stuff, and there's something called ardour don't know if 
it's accessible but the biggest thing for most of these linux cats is 
audacity, and well, that's just not up to par for what we need.

I've also been getting my reaper chops more up to par, and reaper shows a 
lot of promise, I really love the way you can cross-fade audio easily you 
know sonar is the bomb when it comes to midi but it's a little bit behind 
atleast for us with audio editing working with clips and such, great if your 
just doing linear recording and tape style,
mixing and automation
but reaper easily allows you to seamlessly put audio together by growing the 
edges with hot keys so you can actually mix by splitting audio cclips and 
doing stuff to the individual events, very clunky to my way of working, why 
cut a boared when you can bend it, but hey, it works for some things, 
auatomation with reaper is very mouse dependant, you can do a few things now 
from the computer keyboard, but midi editing and the lack of an accessible 
sampler like sfz or matrix view and sonar's superior processing for time 
stretching and pitch makes sonar better, even though reaper makes it easy to 
do those time stretching things with dedicated keyboard commands and for 
small changes, like say tunning a guitar that went a bit flat in a few bars 
is where reaper might be great,
anyway, there has been more interest in reaper and I'm just mentioning just 
to give an overview of where we are with everything in the industry right 
now.

By the way, most folks who seem to be reaper heads are using nvda with 
reaaccess, that project is dead in the water,
but a fine programmer like yourself if you could get enough people 
interested, might find it worth your while to get in to.

I am certainly not going to abandon sonar tomorrow, but looking a few years 
down the line, and with what is happening in the mac world, I think reaper 
may end up being a very possible contender in our next train to ride if x2 
and cakewalk bite the dust.

A lot of sighed protools users have ggone to reaper on the mac side.

Right now though compared to the number of actual blind sonar users who are 
actually being productive, ie running studios and making money, reaper pro 
users are rather lean, I only know a few.

But it bears watching.

Ok, pontification over for now, onward and upward with sonar as she stands.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Teh" <jamie@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <nvda-sonar-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Nvda-sonar-users] hie i'm thinking about using nvda sonar for 
the first time and i have some questions i hope no boddy minds kind regards 
trey.


> Hi.
>
> I'm not sure when you last read my blog post, but it is up-to-date and is 
> the primary source of info for now:
> http://blog.jantrid.net/p/nvda-sonar.html
>
> The Staff View probably isn't accessible, nor is the Clips Pane, though 
> you can sort of work around those using the Event View. Plugins vary 
> widely in terms of accessibility; you can work around some of that using 
> the Track Inspector.
>
> You don't need to separately download the JSonar surface. The add-on 
> installs it for you.
>
> Jamie
>
> On 23/05/2013 2:37 AM, trahern culver wrote:
> > hey all, my name is trey i herd about NVDA sonar recently and i think ide 
> > like to try it but i have some questions i hope you can help.
> >
> > firstly is there any features functions or areas of sonar 8.5.3 that are 
> > not accessible with this add on? and are there any accessibility issues i 
> > need to be aware of?
> >
> > also i red on James's blog entry that he can not help new-bees because of 
> > time constraints so is there any resources that would help me learn sonar 
> > with this solution?
> > what's the latest version of this add-on?
> >
> > i also saw a download link in James's blog entry but no download link on 
> > launch pad is the download link on the blog the only one?
> >
> > also where do i get the jsonar control surface from?
> >
> > i hope you can help with these questions kind regards trey.
>
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