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[abed fa <abdilra7eem@xxxxxxxxx>]

Salam Aleikum,
Can't we just import the Arabic copy of the Hadiths from the database of Al-Maktaba Al-Shamela ??
That'd be relatively easy I guess.

A. Fakhouri



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 From: jmehdi <jmehdi@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: Abdelmonam Kouka <abdelmonam.kouka@xxxxxxxxx> 
Cc: manarah.team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Manarah.team] Database schema
 

someone gave me this link: http://alturath.info/hadeeth/moftah-kenoz-sona/moftah-kenoz-sona.htm, could we find this kind of information in this book?
Otherwise it would be manually...

I've retrieved hadiths from several websites or books that I have
    been able to parse to automatically insert them in the database.
Now I'm filling manually al-Muwatta in French, and I have also sahih
    Bukhari in French in 5 books (10kg :) ), that I use to fill the
    sanads and french translations (I haven't found on the web the full
    sanads of Bukhari hadiths...)
So it's a lot of work!

Mehdi Magnon
Administrator of the Sabily Project - Free Islamic Operating System (http://www.sabily.org)
Administrator of Bayt Al Hikma - Islamic resources and Hadiths (http://www.bayt-al-hikma.com)
Le 02/03/2012 20:35, Abdelmonam Kouka a écrit : 
Good, but how you manage that? as I know there is no book/software that do that, so the only solution is to do it manually!
>BTW: how did you populate the database? manually or using a
        script?
>
>
>2012/3/1 jmehdi <jmehdi@xxxxxxxxxx>
>
>The schema already supports that.
>>Look at: http://www.bayt-al-hikma.com/nawawi/hadeeth/1
>>The hadeeth is related by Bukhari (n°1), Muslim (n°4692)
              and Nawawi (n°1). In the database the hadeeth exists only
              once, and as the sanad can be found in Bukhari, all other
              books inherit this information.
>>
>>For hadeeths that I haven't yet added in Bukhari or
              Muslim, I only put one rawi, as in this hadeeth: http://www.bayt-al-hikma.com/nawawi/hadeeth/2
>>
>>About this, do you know any book in which we can find
              matching hadeeths in different books? For example, to know
              that Bukhari n°1 = Muslim n°4692. 
>> 
>>sanad.png is attached again
>>
>>wa salam 
>>
>>
>>Mehdi Magnon
Administrator of the Sabily Project - Free Islamic Operating System (http://www.sabily.org)
Administrator of Bayt Al Hikma - Islamic resources and Hadiths (http://www.bayt-al-hikma.com)
>>
Le 01/03/2012 22:43, Abdelmonam Kouka a écrit : 
>>Wa alaykom assalem,
>>>
>>>Good design, I think we will adopt it inshallah.
>>>Juste for the case of 40 Nawawi there is no sanad!
                      there is only the rawi and the book in which exist
                      the hadith, exemple:
>>>"hadith 1: On the authority of Omar bin Al-Khattab, who said : I heared the messenger of Allah salla Allah u alihi wa sallam say :Actions are but by intention and every man shall have but that which he intended. Thus he whose migration was for Allah and His messenger, his migration was for Allah and His messenger, and he whose migration was to achieve some worldly benefit or to take some woman in marriage, his migration was for that for which he migrated. related by Bukhari and Muslim"
>>>
>>>so we should find a solution to link this hadith
                      from this book with its equivalent in Bukhari and
                      Muslim, we will need this option when we will
                      start adding books that explain the Hadith.
>>>
>>>
>>>2012/3/1 jmehdi <jmehdi@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>>assalamu alaykum,
>>>>
>>>>Attached is the database schema of Bayt
                          Al-Hikma .
>>>>
>>>>The main tables are Book -> Kitab -> Bab
                          -> Hadeeth
>>>>A book is a set of kitabs; a kitab is a set of
                          babs; a bab is a set of hadeeths.
>>>>Let's explain that with examples:
>>>>* "sahih bukhari" = book
>>>> - "1. The book of commencement of revelation"
                          = kitab
>>>>    - "1 How the Divine Revelation commenced"
                          = bab
>>>>       - Hadiths...
>>>>
>>>>* babs are optional:
>>>> "Sunan Abu-Dawud" = book
>>>> - "1 Purification" = kitab
>>>>    - hadiths....
>>>>
>>>>* kitabs are also optional:
>>>> "40 hadiths of An-Nawawi" = book
>>>> - Hadiths....
>>>>
>>>>Reference table (which contains
                          Qudsi/Marfu/Mauquf... categories), Reliability
                          table (which contains Sahih/Hasan/...
                          categories), IsnadLink table
                          (Musnad/Mursal/Muttasil...) and IsnadNature
                          table (Munkar/Mudraj) are not yet used.
>>>>
>>>>Chains of transmettors are defined using:
                          Hadeeth -> Sanad -> Isnad -> Rawi
>>>>The Isnad table contains the list of Rawis
                          with their position; each hadeeth can have
                          several chains, they are stored using the
                          Sanad table.
>>>>
>>>>-- 
>>>>Mehdi Magnon
>>>>Administrator of the Sabily Project - Free
                              Islamic Operating System (http://www.sabily.org)
>>>>Administrator of Bayt Al Hikma - Islamic
                              resources and Hadiths (http://www.bayt-al-hikma.com)
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
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