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[Abdelmonam Kouka <abdelmonam.kouka@xxxxxxxxx>]

if you have a script that did it automatically it will be great to add two
new tables (explanation book, and explanation hadith) and populate them,
and then we can link each hadith from albukhari to its explanation...

2012/3/2 jmehdi <jmehdi@xxxxxxxxxx>

>  No I mean I have imported the hadiths of Fath al-Bari (and only the
> hadiths, not the explanations)
>
> Mehdi Magnon
> Administrator of the Sabily Project - Free Islamic Operating System (http://www.sabily.org)
> Administrator of Bayt Al Hikma - Islamic resources and Hadiths (http://www.bayt-al-hikma.com)
>
>
> Le 02/03/2012 22:24, Abdelmonam Kouka a écrit :
>
> Mehdi, Fath Al-Bari is not a Hadith book, it is the *explanation *of
> Sahih AlBukhari, so it should have separate tables in DB (for explanation
> book and explanation Hadith): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fath_al-Bari
>
> 2012/3/2 jmehdi <jmehdi@xxxxxxxxxx>
>
>>  Actually, I've imported fath al-bari (
>> http://www.bayt-al-hikma.com/bukhari-fath) for Bukhari in English (it's
>> just that it has a different organization than the original sahih bukhari,
>> that's why I have a second book: http://www.bayt-al-hikma.com/bukhariwhich will have the same hadeeths but organized differently )
>>
>> Mehdi Magnon
>> Administrator of the Sabily Project - Free Islamic Operating System (http://www.sabily.org)
>> Administrator of Bayt Al Hikma - Islamic resources and Hadiths (http://www.bayt-al-hikma.com)
>>
>>
>>  Le 02/03/2012 22:00, Abdelmonam Kouka a écrit :
>>
>> For Albukhari I don't find it in French but I find it in English here:
>> http://saaid.net/book/open.php?cat=92&book=4821 after downloading the
>> .rar file extract it and then you will find a .bok file which you can open
>> with Thawab.
>> For the other link it is not useful as I can see! besides this website is
>> not known as a trusted one!
>>
>> Yep there is a lot of work to do :) now we are OK about this database, we
>> should fix a road map for Manarah, who is ready to develop with us?
>>
>> 2012/3/2 jmehdi <jmehdi@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>
>>>  someone gave me this link:
>>> http://alturath.info/hadeeth/moftah-kenoz-sona/moftah-kenoz-sona.htm,
>>> could we find this kind of information in this book?
>>> Otherwise it would be manually...
>>>
>>> I've retrieved hadiths from several websites or books that I have been
>>> able to parse to automatically insert them in the database.
>>> Now I'm filling manually al-Muwatta in French, and I have also sahih
>>> Bukhari in French in 5 books (10kg :) ), that I use to fill the sanads and
>>> french translations (I haven't found on the web the full sanads of Bukhari
>>> hadiths...)
>>> So it's a lot of work!
>>>
>>> Mehdi Magnon
>>> Administrator of the Sabily Project - Free Islamic Operating System (http://www.sabily.org)
>>> Administrator of Bayt Al Hikma - Islamic resources and Hadiths (http://www.bayt-al-hikma.com)
>>>
>>>
>>>  Le 02/03/2012 20:35, Abdelmonam Kouka a écrit :
>>>
>>> Good, but how you manage that? as I know there is no book/software that
>>> do that, so the only solution is to do it manually!
>>> BTW: how did you populate the database? manually or using a script?
>>>
>>>  2012/3/1 jmehdi <jmehdi@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>>>  The schema already supports that.
>>>> Look at: http://www.bayt-al-hikma.com/nawawi/hadeeth/1
>>>> The hadeeth is related by Bukhari (n°1), Muslim (n°4692) and Nawawi
>>>> (n°1). In the database the hadeeth exists only once, and as the sanad can
>>>> be found in Bukhari, all other books inherit this information.
>>>>
>>>> For hadeeths that I haven't yet added in Bukhari or Muslim, I only put
>>>> one rawi, as in this hadeeth:
>>>> http://www.bayt-al-hikma.com/nawawi/hadeeth/2
>>>>
>>>> About this, do you know any book in which we can find matching hadeeths
>>>> in different books? For example, to know that Bukhari n°1 = Muslim n°4692.
>>>>
>>>> sanad.png is attached again
>>>>
>>>> wa salam
>>>>
>>>> Mehdi Magnon
>>>> Administrator of the Sabily Project - Free Islamic Operating System (http://www.sabily.org)
>>>> Administrator of Bayt Al Hikma - Islamic resources and Hadiths (http://www.bayt-al-hikma.com)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Le 01/03/2012 22:43, Abdelmonam Kouka a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Wa alaykom assalem,
>>>>
>>>> Good design, I think we will adopt it inshallah.
>>>> Juste for the case of 40 Nawawi there is no sanad! there is only the
>>>> rawi and the book in which exist the hadith, exemple:
>>>> "hadith 1: *On the authority of Omar bin Al-Khattab, who said : I
>>>> heared the messenger of Allah salla Allah u alihi wa sallam say :Actions
>>>> are but by intention and every man shall have but that which he intended.
>>>> Thus he whose migration was for Allah and His messenger, his migration was
>>>> for Allah and His messenger, and he whose migration was to achieve some
>>>> worldly benefit or to take some woman in marriage, his migration was for
>>>> that for which he migrated. related by Bukhari and Muslim*"
>>>>
>>>> so we should find a solution to link this hadith from this book with
>>>> its equivalent in Bukhari and Muslim, we will need this option when we will
>>>> start adding books that explain the Hadith.
>>>>
>>>>  2012/3/1 jmehdi <jmehdi@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>
>>>>> assalamu alaykum,
>>>>>
>>>>> Attached is the database schema of Bayt Al-Hikma .
>>>>>
>>>>> The main tables are Book -> Kitab -> Bab -> Hadeeth
>>>>> A book is a set of kitabs; a kitab is a set of babs; a bab is a set of
>>>>> hadeeths.
>>>>> Let's explain that with examples:
>>>>> * "sahih bukhari" = book
>>>>>  - "1. The book of commencement of revelation" = kitab
>>>>>     - "1 How the Divine Revelation commenced" = bab
>>>>>        - Hadiths...
>>>>>
>>>>> * babs are optional:
>>>>>  "Sunan Abu-Dawud" = book
>>>>>  - "1 Purification" = kitab
>>>>>     - hadiths....
>>>>>
>>>>> * kitabs are also optional:
>>>>>  "40 hadiths of An-Nawawi" = book
>>>>>  - Hadiths....
>>>>>
>>>>> Reference table (which contains Qudsi/Marfu/Mauquf... categories),
>>>>> Reliability table (which contains Sahih/Hasan/... categories), IsnadLink
>>>>> table (Musnad/Mursal/Muttasil...) and IsnadNature table (Munkar/Mudraj) are
>>>>> not yet used.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chains of transmettors are defined using: Hadeeth -> Sanad -> Isnad ->
>>>>> Rawi
>>>>> The Isnad table contains the list of Rawis with their position; each
>>>>> hadeeth can have several chains, they are stored using the Sanad table.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Mehdi Magnon
>>>>> Administrator of the Sabily Project - Free Islamic Operating System (
>>>>> http://www.sabily.org)
>>>>> Administrator of Bayt Al Hikma - Islamic resources and Hadiths (
>>>>> http://www.bayt-al-hikma.com)
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>> عبد المنعم كوكة
>>> Abdelmonam Kouka
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>>> http://geek-tounsi.blogspot.com/
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>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> عبد المنعم كوكة
>> Abdelmonam Kouka
>> http://sabily-guru.blogspot.com/
>> http://geek-tounsi.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
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> --
> عبد المنعم كوكة
> Abdelmonam Kouka
> http://sabily-guru.blogspot.com/
> http://geek-tounsi.blogspot.com/
>
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http://sabily-guru.blogspot.com/
http://geek-tounsi.blogspot.com/